September 27, 2006

Existential Thoughts of Relief

Here is an exposition of the E-Ching from yesterday. It's a thought I've been mulling around for the last week or so. Is "pleasure" an above-and-beyond feeling, or is it just getting back to normal? Eating when you're hungry can be a huge relief. A crude example: relieving yourself can be a huge "relief", even to the point of feeling some pleasure. Cigarettes? Sex? Are these all relievers? Does true pleasure exist or is it all just temporal relief? Are all of our happiest moments truly that, or do they only feel that way because in those moments, everything else faded out?

8 comments:

SpuneDagr said...

Not related to your post. But still awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYklQpfP1zc
-Dave

Sabai said...

Colbert is awesome.

Sabai said...

Seriously? Noone? This is a pretty sadistic outlook.

Arcane Rest said...

Okay I will tell you what I think...So I think there must be a differnce between satisfaction and pleasure. Satisfaction is what occurs when there is something that we get back. To take your example, hunger you eat and it is satisfied. However, that same eating time can be pleasureable because of what you ate, not that you just ate. For some, the same is true for sex. Depending on what the circumstances, if someone "craves" or "needs" sex then they will be satisfied with a prostitute or someone they do not know. However, sex can be pleasureable (is there anyone that disagrees? except the person that suffers from dyspareunia) when there is that bond of love and marriage.

So you have two things: Satisfaction: a mere filling of a craving, &
Pleasure: a deeper sense of happiness or excitement expected or not expected from something

Sabai said...

very good points. But, how come when you're full, you get no pleasure in food? Perhaps because it does not satisfy?

Arcane Rest said...

I think it comes from looking at it like this: satisfaction is lower than pleasure. would you agree? So one can be satisfied all their life with mediocrity. However, to have pleasure one must first be satisfied. It is almost like maslow's hierarchy of needs. You must first survive in order to enjoy life.

So your question why is it you get no pleasure from food when you are full? Because the satisfaction and pleasure are from the same stimulus (food) so one is satisfied or already had a pleasureable eating experience cannot go back to that same thing for even satisfaction, probably for physiological reasons.

Do you think there are other things in the world that dont act like this? I am sure there are.

Sabai said...

I was just in the bathroom experiencing relief, and I think you're on to something Sean. Perhaps the "pleasure" we feel is a psychological pleasure that coincides with the physiological relief/satisfaction we are feeling?

Arcane Rest said...

too much information, but I am glad you put my words into a practical situation