May 23, 2007

Give Peace a Chance


After noticing a bumper-sticker clad car the other morning, I was struck with this question:

How can a vegan be pro-choice?

*Note: There IS a non-hypocritical way to answer this question. I am looking for that answer.

12 comments:

matt j said...

being vegan relates to a person's diet, and only implies their feelings about animal cruelty

Sabai said...

well, without giving away the answer that I was looking for: how can someone be so considered with protecting at all costs, the life of an animal, while being pro-choice?

JMC said...

I love when a post inspires thought. This one has done so for me. I am mulling it over, and will try to come up with an intelligent response, though it's difficult, as I myself don't hold the pro-choice position. I did recently write a post that I hoped also would inspire thought on the pro-choice and pro-life positions.

I love your blog, by the way. This is the first time I stumbled onto it. Very interesting!

Arcane Rest said...

i believe it has to do with perspective: the person believes the growing baby in the womb is at the very most subhuman and at the least a parasite. this perspective makes it easy for women to choose to kill or not to kill the "thing" inside of them.

and animals are living and very cute, so dont eat them.

matt j said...

My friend at work is a vegan because of his religious beliefs. I don't know his feelings on animal cruelty or abortion for sure, but I can assume he believes the aborted babies end up a higher life form their next time around and they are actually better off not being born. If that is what he truly believes, I don't see any hypocrasy.

Since Sabai has searched the world over and has only found one ultimate and precious acceptable answer, I'm going with the Hindu vegan.

lauren said...

i'm pretty sure true hindus do not support abortion...
just believe me on that one.

lauren

Sabai said...

JMC, glad you stopped by!

matt, sabai got to see her other bumper stickers, and guesses she was not a hindu.

sean's paraphrased answer of "a child at that state is not a living thing" is the answer i thought of as well. So, the person is not being hypocritical to themselves, because the mouse is alive and the pre-born child is not.

JMC said...

But do pro-choicers make that assumption? That the fetus is not a living thing? Forgive me my ignorance, but I thought the pro-choice view really has nothing to do with whether or not the fetus is living, just whether or not the woman has control over her body. Which of course would make the reconciliation of the pro-choice and vegan much more difficult. To make the assumption that the fetus is non-living kind of makes it an easy reconciliation of those views. Maybe "living" is the wrong word. Would "sentient" be better?

Sabai said...

ok, you guys all brought up enough points for me to actually look up what being vegan means, aside from what I believed to be factual based on a few simpsons episodes i pieced together.

it looks like it's a stance against animal cruelty in general.

therefore, an unborn child is not an animal, so all bets are off.

JMC said...

Ah, but humans are animals as well. And so we begin again. :)

Enjoyable discussion. Thanks!

Sabai said...

ok, next time one of us meets a vegan, please ask them their feelings on the abortion issue, so we can get to the bottom of this.

Steve said...

I think a lot of it does have to do with when one believes life begins. I had a friend who was a vegetarian for moral reasons who believed abortion should be permitted until brain development began because that's when he believed life started.